Curse

Goldleader · Oct 05, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34

A few months ago I finally got around to deleting my old mesmer and creating a new mesmer with a more appealing name and look.

I remember when I first started playing my 2nd Mesmer, I saw a ton of posts that discussed how the Mesmer class is not as good as it used to be, and that finding groups is VERY difficult for high-end farming.

Now that I finally beat 3 of the 4 games with my Mesmer, and I'm on the last mission for Factions, I could not disagree more with the negativity. Every mission I played, my mesmer was immediately added to the group, save for ONE instance in proph. In fact, many times the comments I hear from other team members when I'm added are "Yay a mesmer" or "Sweet, this is a balanced group." I have never heard anyone write something negative like "what the hell, a mesmer? They suck!" Generally speaking, most players seem to realize that mesmers are absolutely worth grouping with. This goes for FoW, UW, the new GW:EN farm teams, etc. Ok, I'll admit the Deep took time, but I blame that on the fact that there are fewer a fewer PUG Deep Runs and more and more Guild only Deep runs.

Some of the complaints from veteran mesmers stem from the fact that the newer games (Nightfall and GW:EN) feature more mobs at once than the original 2 games did. The mesmer's speciality is in killing single targets, not in area effect damage skills, which are more effective for large groups. Regardless, I have noticed one thing, a Mesmer can help a group take down an opposing monk much quicker than it could without the Mesmer. Single target shutdown has tremendous value.

What do you guys think? Do you have difficulty getting groups? If so, where?

t h i n e eyes b l e e d · Oct 05, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Well after since Nightfall came out i haven't palyedin a signle non-farm PUGs it's hard to say but i think mesmers rock... and they are PvE class as every other class is too IMO mesmers CAN replace rits eles dervs and assas in PUGs

Dean Harper · Oct 05, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45

i have had somewhat of the same experience. You just need to have a good build, and not use noobish skills taht are thrown together.

Water Angel · Oct 06, 2007, 08:06 AM // 08:06

im going for guardian and vanquishing on my mesmer and when i throw ask for group prescing what for in oublic i neva had problem find group.ppl jsut love mesmers for hard mode and hard areas.

and mesmers can do aoe stuff as well. aoe degen, slow,aoe interupt,aoe dmg.....

aapo · Oct 07, 2007, 03:11 AM // 03:11

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Originally Posted by Goldleader

Some of the complaints from veteran mesmers stem from the fact that the newer games (Nightfall and GW:EN) feature more mobs at once than the original 2 games did. The mesmer's speciality is in killing single targets, not in area effect damage skills, which are more effective for large groups. Regardless, I have noticed one thing, a Mesmer can help a group take down an opposing monk much quicker than it could without the Mesmer. Single target shutdown has tremendous value.

- I don't know about this "no AoE" rule. Three skills I use most frequently in PvE are Mantra of Recovery and Ether Nightmare followed by Cry of Pain. After that most mobs are down to half health. And I let the Ele heroes take care of rest. Empathy and Backfire are a bit overrated versus normal mobs, as the damage won't trigger that many times since Heroes will switch fire to your own target. Against bosses they are a godsend. Guilt works too.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Oct 07, 2007, 03:59 AM // 03:59

sig of illusions and go ele secondary for mes and I was actually out nuking eles

Abedeus · Oct 07, 2007, 12:09 PM // 12:09

And don't forget that Mesmer is a GREAT, almost imba help in Eye of the North. Every team trying to do a dungeon should get a mesmer. Holy Wrath + smiting signets = win in Shards of Orr, Cathedral of Flames and few more. And I can kill Great Destroyer with my mesmer in one minute, depending on how fast he will use his after-being-interrupted skill.

mesmer anthony · Oct 08, 2007, 02:02 PM // 14:02

most of the time the build shows how much skill you have.

Dodo The Extinct · Oct 08, 2007, 02:23 PM // 14:23

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sig of illusions and go ele secondary for mes and I was actually out nuking eles

Signet Of Illusions + all pure PvE Skills = Uber 1337

Div · Oct 09, 2007, 11:21 PM // 23:21

Mesmers were never wanted in PUGs, simply because most people like cookie cutter builds when in reality they can be useful.